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The SeasonED RD is a podcast for all professionals in the field of eating disorders who want a “one-stop-shop” for the resources, the people, and the connections that matter. Whether you are newly seasoned (intern, student, or newer professional in the field) or well seasoned, this podcast is for you. Let’s learn together!
Episodes
Friday Nov 04, 2022
Friday Nov 04, 2022
Beth Hartman McGilley, Ph.D., FAED, CEDS-S
- The Relationship Is The Secret Sauce
- How feeling fat, dumb and ugly can teach us
- Find a supervisor, find a therapist who will help you stay attuned to the relationship in which that healing is happening.
- Insight isn’t curative but it’s essential
- Saw myself in the textbook - At least 30% of us in the field with lived experience with ED- it was RADICAL to talk about it
- How privilege informs our experience, understanding intersectionality, how it impacts us as professionals
- “I marvel at what younger therapists are learning”
- Recognize our limitation – it’s ok to have 2 therapists or transfer to those who specialize in the work most needed.
Beth’s Seasonings:
- Understand issues of power and shame
- Margo Maine, PhD – Body Wars, Pursuing Perfection, Father Hunger
- Killing Us Softly – Jean Kilbourne
- Cynthia Bulik
- Bio, Psycho, Social and SPIRITUAL
- Dan Siegel and neurobiology
- Polyvagal theory
- Susan Wooley
- Dr. Michael Barrett
- Research practice gap book
- “If I had to impart any wisdom to younger people in the field, what I see missing in the training is learning how to source the therapeutic relationship in the service of healing”
Bio:
Beth Hartman McGilley, Ph.D., FAED, CEDS-S is a psychologist in private practice, specializing in the treatment of eating disorders, athletes, trauma, and grief. Her practice is informed by feminist, HAES, and social justice perspectives. A Fellow of the AED, and a Certified Eating Disorders Specialist/Supervisor, she has practiced psychotherapy for over 35 years, in addition to writing, lecturing, and supervising. She is the co-editor of the book: Treatment of Eating Disorders: Bridging the Research/Practice Gap.
With your host Beth Harrell
Friday Oct 28, 2022
Friday Oct 28, 2022
“It’s so hard
FBT (Family Based Treatment) allows a place for the eating disorder to emote and parents to be empowered
3 Phases of FBT are described
Phase 1 is a hard sell
How do we support caregivers it if we’re the only FBT informed practitioner on the team
Someone needs to lead it
These parents are hearing higher weights than they have ever heard and will likely see higher calories than is usually ever needed.
Power team of collaborative care in Katie’s EDRD Pro course
Katie’s Seasonings:
Surrounding yourself with life teachers
Dr. Lauren Muhlheim - When Your Teen Has an Eating Disorder: Practical Strategies to Help Your Teen Recover from Anorexia, Bulimia, and Binge Eating
Dr Peeble's episode on The SeasonED RD
Katie Makie, RN FEAST - https://www.feast-ed.org/
Renee Rienecke, PhD Guest Speaker for the course
Course - EDRD Pro FBT Informed Nutrition Counseling for Eating Disorder Treatment 2.0
Bio:
Katie Grubiak, RDN graduated from the Coordinated Program in Dietetics at The University of Texas at Austin. She first pursued a career in public health nutrition in San Diego and Los Angeles with a maternal-child focus. It was in the same underprivileged area of Los Angeles where she was serving nutritionally that she began to combine her passions, teaching dance and guiding families of dancers to public health clinic access at a foundation called everybody dance! which was awarded by First Lady Michelle Obama the National Arts & Humanities Youth Program Award. Her involvement in multidisciplinary eating disorder treatment started at the UCLA Arthur Ashe Student Health & Wellness Center. Katie developed a unique style of practicing Family Based Treatment that was driven by her collaborations with Dr. Lauren Muhlheim at Eating Disorder Therapy LA. In addition, Katie was the eating disorder dietitian at Optimum Performance Institute in Woodland Hills, California which specializes in DBT focused mental health residential treatment for young adults. Katie now has her own nutrition and care coordination private practice named NUTRITION ILLUMINATION.
With your host Beth Harrell
Friday Oct 21, 2022
Friday Oct 21, 2022
Listen in to hear how Dr. Bermin became interested in the psychology of women and the psychology of gender. Her interest in eating disorders was borne through seeing how body image concerns robbed women of achieving beautiful and amazing things in life.
ACT helps us let go of the unproductive struggle
Join in her excitement - “The world has evolved, culture has come along with me and I feel so ready.”
How do we work with “I don’t want to accept myself, I need to lose weight”?
We are taught to judge bodies from a young age and are not privileged to grow up in a culture that values all bodies
INFORMED CONSENT to start with a client who is interested in this work
You want what you think the weight loss will buy.
What about bariatric surgery?
Let go of the healthiest thinking
White clinicians have a lot of work to do
Dr. Margit Berman’s Seasonings:
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Acceptance Commitment Therapy
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Wished I had had earlier and better education on ageism, racism
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Women En Large –Laurie Toby Edison - forgotten foremothers of HAES – Fat women
Bio:
Margit Berman, Ph.D., LP, is the Program Director of the Clinical Psychology PsyD Program at Augsburg University and Assistant Professor of Psychiatry at the Geisel School of Medicine at Dartmouth. In addition to training future psychologists, she conducts research on intervention development in women's health. She wrote the clinician manual and self-help guide for the Accept Yourself! intervention for larger-bodied women with depression.
She is the author of Acceptance-Based Approaches for Weight Concerns and Workbook.
With your host Beth Harrell
Saturday Oct 15, 2022
Saturday Oct 15, 2022
Janice Poplack, LCSW-S, ACSW
Brandi Powell, MS, RD, LD, CEDS-S
Jill Sechi, MS, RDN, CEDS-S, LD
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Theresa Fassihi, PHD, FAED, CEDS-S
Today's episode we talk about:
Virtual caregivers support for eating disorders - parent's often feel helpless.
Find out not only what every professional and parent should know, but "What every human should know"
Ways we can help caregivers with the ups and downs of refeeding
This work is a supplement to family based team training based on what parents need while their child has a team
For professionals - Monthly peer supervision group – sign up using this link https://www.empoweredurecovery.com/for-clinicans
Empowered U’s Seasonings:
- How to Nourish Your Child Through an Eating Disorder -Plate by plate approach – Casey Crosbie and Wendy Sterling https://www.platebyplateapproach.com
- What to Say to Kids when nothing seems to work - https://www.routledge.com/What-to-Say-to-Kids-When-Nothing-Seems-to-Work-A-Practical-Guide-for-Parents/Lafrance-Miller/p/book/9781138344631
- "Make sure you (the professional) do supervision"
https://www.empoweredurecovery.com/
Bios:
Theresa Fassihi, PHD, FAED, CEDS-S, is a clinical psychologist with more than 20 years of experience treating eating disorders at all levels of care. Dr. Fassihi was first exposed to FBT in 2001 at The Maudsley Hospital in London, where she did her first training in the model. She has since trained in Chicago with the team of Daniel LaGrange, at UCSD with Dr. Walter Kaye and his colleagues and Adele LaFrance. Dr. Fassihi is also a trauma specialist and recognizes how traumatic it can be to have an eating disorder and also to see a loved one struggling with an eating disorder. Part of the work towards recovery is learning to cope with the trauma.
Janice Poplack, LCSW-S, ACSW is a clinical social worker specializing in family systems and mental health including Eating Disorders (ED,) has been in practice for more than 40 years. She graduated with a BS from Syracuse University and received a MSSW from Columbia University with post graduate training in psychoanalytic psychodynamic psychotherapy from the D.C. Institute of Mental Hygiene. Janice worked in community mental health in NYC, Washington DC and Houston, before joining the clinical staff at The Menninger Clinic in 2003, retiring from the Clinic in June of 2021. At Menninger, Janice served three years as the interim Director of the Eating Disorder Unit, and assisted in the development and supporting the work of the current ED Track. In 2009 Janice became Director of Clinic al Social Work, a position which promoted the importance the family can play in mental health treatment and recovery. Janice has presented at local and national conferences on a variety of topics including “ED: Fact and Fiction”; “Mentalizing Treatment for the Treatment ED Patients (with T Fasshihi, Ph.D).”; ”Treating the Complex ED Patient”; and “Family Matters: An Orientation to Family Therapy”. Janice was honored at Menninger with an “Excellence in Social Work Leadership Award”, “The Arthur Mandelbaum Distinguished Educator’s Award” and, “Excellence in Patient Advocacy” recently named in her honor. Janice has been a member of The Academy of Eating Disorders, The National Eating Disorders Association, Houston Eating Disorder Specialists, The National Association of Social Workers, Houston Psychoanalytic Society, and The American Group Psychotherapy Association.
Brandi Powell, MS, RD, LD, CEDS-S is a registered dietitian and certified eating disorders specialist and supervisor. She obtained a masters of science in nutrition and has worked in higher levels of care (including IOP and PHP). She currently runs a private practice in Pearland where she focuses on eating disorders and providing supervision/consultation to other dietitians. She began working with eating disorders in 2005 and is passionate about guiding her clients to fully recover. She has learned about FBT and EFFT through supervision, reading and attending educational sessions.
Jill Sechi's episode - The ED RD Residency
With your host Beth Harrell
Friday Oct 07, 2022
Friday Oct 07, 2022
Parenting Through Eating Disorders
“I’ll never let my toddler throw a fit in public” – the truths we learn about parenting after we become a parent
Find your community of other parents
Professional guidance - Let Us Teach You – Let Us Be With You – You’re Not Alone
Guilt is a huge theme parents feel – constantly questioning decisions during treatment.
YOU’RE DOING THE RIGHT THING BY NOT RESCUING
Come away with a stronger support system for the rest of their lives.
Parents are in the best situation to co-regulate.
For us it’s bigger than this one experience
How do professionals help kids with parents who are divorced or with separate beliefs about recovery?
Recovery culture vs current culture
Defining coaching vs counseling for parents
Guilt left unsaid leads to shame. Shame is very powerful.
Parents can GROW EMOTIONAL COPING SKILLS
Emotion coaching – EMOTION COACHING
“I have finally found my thing”
12 week program -
Part 1 – Psychoeducation “But I Know All of This”
Part 2 – Twice a week parent coaching – where the rubber hits the road
Part 3 – (oops - Beth hijacked the conversation and didn’t get to part 3. So sorry about that)
Shared Seasonings:
Listen to Rebecca Brumm’s episode
Trauma work
Connection and relationships and trust
Investing in now so they become free to go out into the world and make their own difference
Learning how to treat eating disorders is a long process – parents are just thrown in there
It’s like riding a bull – they will try to buck you off – stay on as long as you can without trying to ‘strongarm’ or fix.
Parenting through Eating Disorders
Bios:
Gracie Evans:
Gracie Evans, LPC, CEDS is eager to help people improve their relationships with themselves and their bodies. As a Certified Eating Disorders Specialist (CEDS) and Certified Yoga Teacher Grace is enthusiastic about helping others become more in tune with their emotions, feelings, beliefs, and how those impact our wellbeing. Grace has nine years of experience working in eating disorders inpatient treatment. Grace is passionate about collaborating with patients and professionals to provide the most comprehensive care for those she works with.
Drawing from her experience working as a therapist in an internationally recognized and esteemed eating disorders treatment program Grace provides an individualized experience for her patients. She utilizes various techniques and practices to help people bring awareness to the power of their thoughts and experiences within their bodies.
In addition to eating disorders treatment Grace is an avid practitioner of positive psychology. If you are struggling with anxiety or depression Grace can help with simple and effective techniques to increase overall levels of happiness and joy in life.
Sarah's bio is here:
If you struggle with food, body image, or anxiety and are battling thoughts that you aren’t “good enough,” then Sarah is eager to help! Sarah provides specialized treatment for adolescent girls and adult women struggling with eating disorders, body dissatisfaction, compulsive exercise, stress and trauma. Sarah approaches counseling with authenticity, genuineness, and humor sprinkled in. She believes in the importance of partnering with families as they can be their loved ones’ best allies in their journey toward recovery.
Sarah King, LPC, has over nine years of experience helping teens, women, and families who are navigating trauma, anxiety, and eating disorder recovery in outpatient, inpatient, and school-based settings. Most recently, Sarah has served as a therapist at an internationally recognized eating disorders inpatient treatment program. Sarah is trained in Trauma-Focused Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (TF-CBT), Collaborative Assessment and Management of Suicidality (CAMS), is a certified school counselor, and will complete her Certified Eating Disorder Specialist (CEDS) designation in January 2023. Given Sarah’s experience, training, and genuine care for her patients, you can be assured that you will be provided with excellent individualized treatment tailored to your needs. Sarah is excited to partner with you as you learn to make peace with food, manage stress and anxiety, and live a life of freedom that is true to your values.
Rebecca Brumm, LPC, CEDS-S
wholehivecounseling.com and parentingthroughed.com
our contact emails are rebecca@wholehivecounseling.com,
gracie@wholehivecounseling.com and sarah@wholehivecounseling.com
With your host Beth Harrell
Friday Sep 30, 2022
Friday Sep 30, 2022
Haley Goodrich, RD, LDN, CEDS-S
The word HATE
What is Healthism? – We are taught by the media and in school what health is supposed to look like. Look at our story of how we were trained
Identities described
Clinician body image -examining ourselves
Intense - What is your human response? How does it feel?
We don’t have to know all the answers
PAUSE
Regulate our own nervous system
Haley’s Seasonings:
Weekly Team Supervision
Group Supervision
Have a burnout plan from Day 1
Allowing myself to be a human
Bio:
Haley Goodrich is a Certified Eating Disorder Registered Dietitian who is fiercely passionate about helping people heal from disordered eating and cultivate a peaceful relationship with food and their body. She specializes in eating disorder recovery, body image, weight-inclusive nutrition therapy, and is an iaedp approved supervisor for registered dietitians. In addition to individual client work and managing her group private practice, she is also the co-founder of INSPIRD to SEEK, where she mentors nutrition entrepreneurs and practitioners who are challenging the status quo of our health industry. Haley strongly believes in integrating the Non-Diet Approach and HAES® philosophy into all health care settings, including nutrition therapy. She advocates through her writing, speaking, and social media presence.
You can learn more about Haley and her work on her website: www.inspirdnutrition.com or Instagram @hgoodrichrd
Within Summit
https://www.withinsummit.com/#about
With your host Beth Harrell
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Friday Sep 23, 2022
Friday Sep 23, 2022
Nuggets from Sondra (The “Oldest Nutritionist on the Planet”):
- Food is so much more than it’s nutritional value
- Overcoming being on the outside of healing circles just because of her profession
- Proving that people get better when therapy and nutrition are paired
- Recovery is Flexible, Balanced, Spontaneous
- Comparison as a scale to measure self worth
- How the field is always evolving and the learning curve is enormous
Sondra Kronberg, MS, RD, CEDRD-S
Founder and Executive Director, Eating Disorder Treatment Collaborative, FEED: IOP, CONNECT and CONCIERGE programs as well as a consultant to the Carolyn Costin Institute.
Sondra specializes in the treatment and training of the collaborative approach to eating disorders. She is one of the first nutrition therapists to teach, train and promote the role of the nutritionist in the treatment of eating disorders and has been treating patients and teaching professionals for almost 40 years.
She is a founding member and past Board Trustee of the National Eating Disorders Association, (NEDA). The author of Comprehensive Learning/Teaching Handout Series Manual for Eating Disorders and Contributing author to Eating Disorders: Clinical Guide to Counseling and Treatment and Eating Disorders in Special Populations: Medical, Nutritional and Psychological Treatments.
Sondra received the International Association of Eating Disorder Professionals, (IAEDP), Certified Eating Disorder Specialists Award, the NEDA Excellence in Treatment Award and SCAN Excellence in Practice Award. In 2018 Sondra received NEDA’s first Legacy Award. She currently is an approved iaedp supervisor and is a faculty instructor for the iaedp Eating Disorder Certification Core-Course.
This year Sondra created the Chats in the Living Room weekly live online support group, newsletter, and website. Sondra hosts experts in the field before a live audience of those struggling in an effort to help them stay connected and get support through this pandemic.
Sondra’s greatest passion is helping people learn to nourish their minds and bodies in order to reclaim their lives and thrive.
With your host Beth Harrell
Friday Sep 16, 2022
Friday Sep 16, 2022
How to understand goal weight (including transgender)
Growth Charts are vital
It all comes back to fear – “I’m afraid my kid will relapse, I’m afraid we’re pushing them too hard” – the relapse factor is much more prevalent if we leave them at a weight that is not appropriate for their body.
The eating disorder places a lot of distress on the number
Body distress is inverse – body distress can decrease when well-weight is achieved and maintained
Depriving them of that potential for decreased body distress if we leave them at that weight.
Blind vs open weight and the CARES Act
Subtypes for ARFID described, including ARFID+
Distress tolerance skills no matter what the diagnosis
Hierarchy and hands on exposure work with the dietitian in the inpatient setting
Meal plan reflects safe foods then build up
ERC has a course for parents on technology – kids and teens have sort of an “addiction” to technology
“I wish I had known to seek out more information on EDs –dietitian training was focused on obesity”
This episode is sponsored by:
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Pathlight Mood & Anxiety Center
Brooke’s Seasonings:
Seek supervision and putting the minds together with other providers
Obtaining growth charts are vital
Eating Disorders are everywhere in general hospital settings
Bio:
Brooke Butler is the Nutrition Manager for the Child and Adolescent Program at Eating Recovery Center in Denver, CO. She received her bachelor’s degree in Dietetics from the University of Central Missouri in Warrensburg, Missouri and completed her dietetic internship at Miami Valley Hospital in Dayton, Ohio. Brooke was a clinical dietitian for three years at the University of Missouri’s Hospital, where she specialized in providing medical nutrition therapy for general medicine and psychiatry patients, which included patients with eating disorders. Brooke has been at Eating Recovery Center since October 2013, and has found her calling helping children, adolescents, and families in moving away from disordered eating, the diet mentality and placing "good" or "bad" labels on food. Brooke is an active member of the International Association of Eating Disorder Professionals, and holds their Certified Eating Disorder Registered Dietitian and Approved Supervisor credentials. She is a founding member of the Denver chapter of the International Federation of Eating Disorder Dietitians. In her free time, Brooke enjoys all the outdoor activities Colorado has to offer, is a huge board game aficionado, and is on a mission to tour all the State Capitols.
With your host Beth Harrell
Friday Sep 09, 2022
Friday Sep 09, 2022
Val Schonberg MS, RDN, CSSD, LD, NCMP, FAND
Val talks about the neurobiology of hormones, body image and menopause.
What do I need to change in my diet to avoid gaining weight during menopause?
Or after “This body is shaped differently now”
Yes, it’s ok and important for dietitians to talk about body image.
Midlife and women and hormones and eating disorders.
What does menopause have to do with eating disorders and body?
Peri-menopausal years are ‘turbulent’
Anti-aging culture can contribute to eating disorders
What to do when client says “What do I need to do to keep from gaining weight.”
Heart disease is still the leading cause of mortality in women over 50.
Val’s Seasonings:
- Pub Med Journal articles
- Consultation groups
- MarciRD and Fiona Sutherland’s body image group – see episodes with Marci and recent with fiona
- Body Image Workbook
Bio:
Val Schonberg MS, RDN, CSSD, LD, NCMP, FAND Registered Dietitian Nutritionist and Owner, EnlightenU Nutrition Consulting, LLC Val Schonberg is a Registered and Licensed Dietitian with a master’s degree in Nutrition Science from the University of Minnesota. She is Board Certified as a Specialist in Sports Dietetics, a Certified Menopause Practitioner with the North American Menopause Society and a Fellow of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics. Val owns EnlightenU Nutrition Consulting, LLC, a private practice in Atlanta, Georgia where she specializes in nutrition for recreational and professional athletes, dancers and performing artists, women in midlife and menopause, and individuals with disordered eating concerns. Originally from Minnesota, Val’s experience and expertise come from years of practice in many settings including eating disorder treatment, Division 1 college sports medicine, professional dance organizations, and speaking regionally and nationally on numerous nutrition related topics. In addition to individual nutrition counseling, she is currently the consulting dietitian for Emory Sports Medicine and Orthopedics and Atlanta Ballet. Val is passionate about providing nutrition care to populations vulnerable to disordered eating and promoting positive nutrition messages that help people make informed decisions about their health and live a life where they feel free to confidently embrace their best self.
With your host Beth Harrell
Friday Sep 02, 2022
Friday Sep 02, 2022
Carolyn Costin MFT MA, MEd, LMFT, CEDS, FAED
Find out how Carolyn determines if coaches or therapists are ready to do this work
“I’m recovered from this and so can you”.
Hope and motivation – sober coaches and ED coaches need to be TRAINED.
Carolyn “requires” disclosure of lived experience and listens to every training session.
She shares how to avoid comparisons
Advises to never talk about how bad you were – only share things when relevant
Conscious eating scores can help
Learn how to channel the characteristics like Type A – instead of counting calories I went to conferences and learned
Temperament is a risk factor – perfectionism, anxiety = high energy, obsessiveness = detail oriented
Been there done that – article with Craig Johnson, you can get stuck on the why, HAVE to work on the HOW. Been There, Done That: Clinicians' Use of Personal Recovery in the Treatment of Eating Disorders
Bio:
Carolyn Costin MFT is a renowned, sought-after eating disorder clinician, author of 6 books, and international speaker.
Recovered herself and treating eating disorders since 1979, Carolyn was first to speak out that people with eating disorders can become fully recovered.
15 years into private practice and after running hospital units, Carolyn, unhappy with the relapse rate, recognized a need and opened Monte Nido, the first eating disorder residential facility.
Currently Carolyn trains and certifies eating disorder coaches at The Carolyn Costin Institute, filling another gap in support resources.
Carolyn is a passionate, inspiring force in the eating disorder field.
Sponsored by Within Health
Visit the website at https://withinhealth.com/ or email us at hello@withinhealth.com
With your host Beth Harrell