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The SeasonED RD is a podcast for all professionals in the field of eating disorders who want a “one-stop-shop” for the resources, the people, and the connections that matter. Whether you are newly seasoned (intern, student, or newer professional in the field) or well seasoned, this podcast is for you. Let’s learn together!
Episodes
Friday Aug 26, 2022
Friday Aug 26, 2022
Elyssa Toomey, RDN, CEDS-S, RYT
- So many people (physical therapists, yoga instructors, personal trainers) can be brought into the web of people that are trying to help clients be connected and create a peaceful relationship with food and their body
- How do we hold space for our clients as dietitians, especially virtually?
- What are the non-negotiable things I need as a clinician as a human, so that I can show up for my clients as my best self? We need self-care and support to do this work well.
- Our patients need to give us permission to help them do the work of recovery, in order to give them autonomy and empower them to feel that they can succeed.
- How do we learn how to incorporate breathwork into our client sessions?
- Balance curiosity and compassion in your work with clients
- Lived experience versus lived expertise
- Help clients consider: how will these foods nourish them physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually?
- It is not our job to fix our client’s eating disorders – it IS our job to be the container for distress.
Elyssa’s Seasonings:
- Supervision with Melanie Rogers (podcast episode with Melainie on orthorexia) and Jessica Setnick - podcast episode with Jessica.
- Difference between case consultation and supervision – podcast with Molly Kellogg CEDS, LCSW
- Crisis training – breathwork, trauma informed nutrition
- Eat With Knowledge- Elyssa’s private practice
- Pursuing Private Practice
Bio:
Elyssa Toomey, Certified Eating Disorders Specialist and Supervisor (CEDS-S), Registered Dietitian Nutritionist (RDN) and Registered Yoga Teacher (RYT) is an experienced anti-diet, Health at Every Size informed, weight-inclusive eating disorder dietitian who is passionate about helping people develop a peaceful relationship with food and their body. She specializes in helping clients heal from chronic dieting, disordered eating and eating disorders.
In addition to her one-on-one work with clients, Elyssa provides ongoing group and individual clinical supervision and case consultation to dietitians and therapists looking to develop their competence and confidence especially related to incorporating embodiment approaches in the treatment of disordered eating and eating disorders.
Elyssa has spent her career creating change for individuals, families, and communities. Elyssa is committed to dismantling diet culture and believes helping people heal their relationship with food and body is her calling.
Elyssa combines medical nutrition therapy with advanced training in eating disorders, intuitive eating, yoga, mindfulness, and somatic practices. She believes in an integrative approach, blending evidenced based science with Eastern philosophies and embodiment practices to help her clients recover and live full, meaningful lives.
Elyssa’s work has been featured at conferences and on podcasts. She has spoken on the topics of Binge Eating Disorder, Emotional Eating, Intuitive Eating, Trauma-sensitive nutrition counseling and using somatic work with clients.
Elyssa supports her clients in finding their unique work-life-family-self balance. When not with clients you can find her in nature with her dog Raven, on her yoga mat or in her kitchen with friends and family. Elyssa believes that living a life that nourishes you at every level is the answer to authentic health, happiness, and success.
With your host Beth Harrell
Friday Aug 19, 2022
Friday Aug 19, 2022
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Food and eating and the way we regard our bodies can’t be disconnected from the other parts of our lives.
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Bring questions and a reflective spirit to supervision.
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Supervision is a powerful burnout-protective mechanism
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Burnout can carry with it feelings of shame, especially for new dietitians. But, it is not abnormal; many professionals experience burnout.
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Eating disorder work requires a lot from practitioners. We need to recognize honestly the weight of the work we’re doing and acknowledge the help we need to continue to do the work well.
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It’s not just our clients who are on a journey of healing- we are too. Our nervous systems are both in the room together, and we need to acknowledge this.
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Being in a community of dietitians on Facebook is not the same as supervision and it cannot replace supervision.
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When we elevate supervision, we set a higher standard of care to expect of ourselves and each other when doing this work.
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I can be who I am right now and that is enough. This feeling can be “supercharged” by being in supervision.
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Is it enough to just sit with someone and be present for a person as they’re telling me something difficult? We are trained to “get to the good stuff,” that is, the action steps towards behavior change for our clients. But that does not always have to be the ultimate priority for time with our clients. We don’t always have to be “fix it” people.
Fiona’s “Seasonings”
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Fiona & Tracy’s Trauma-informed care workshop
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Fiona & Marci’s Body Image Workshop
Bio:
Fiona is an Accredited Practising Dietitian (APD) and Director of The Mindful Dietitian, living on Wurundjeri Country in Melbourne, Australia. She has been practising for over 20 years primarily in the areas of eating disorders, body image and sports nutrition. Fiona is a committed Health At Every Size ® and Weight Inclusive Dietitian spending most of her working week supervising other Dietitians, or running training designed for Dietitians and health professionals, including the CEDC – Certified Eating Disorder Clinician, ANZAED’s Certification Program for Eating Disorders Professionals.
Thanks to our sponsor: https://www.gpidea.org/program/dietetics
Friday Aug 12, 2022
Friday Aug 12, 2022
Like so many dietetics students and nutrition professionals, Alison ended up working in dietetics as a result of her own disordered relationship with food. She has since realized how much freedom there is from shame and embarrassment in sharing her story, now that she has recovered.
Her first RD job was at WIC, where she first learned about Ellyn Satter, the Division of Responsibility, and Intuitive Eating. Though these things were not a part of her university dietetics program, they struck an interest with her.
Alison has learned (and teaches) that more often than not, weight loss programs help you gain more weight.
We need to consider sleep, stress, and access to food
Trying to get word OBESITY taken out of healthcare curriculum -try BMI >30 or High Weight
Teaching about weight stigma, harm, scenarios, case studies, motivational interviewing
Providing Respectful Care with our patients
Policy and making health access and equity
Works at Iowa State, counseling and outreach to students, to help them with disordered eating and developing modules for lectures, or lecturing for weight stigma and weight centric healthcare.
“Weight-centric programming can be very harmful and is also not sustainable.”
What Alison wishes she would have known before working one on one with individuals with eating disorders: “You’ll never know all of the things… however, the amount of things I learned from my clients, my students, there’s no other way to learn it than to do the work… until you do the work with the client, you can’t learn it any other way.”
Alison’s private practice- training for other healthcare professionals on weight-inclusive care and trauma informed care.
Alison’s Seasonings:
Going to counseling class as a student
Trauma-informed care: Tracy Brown & Fiona Sutherland
HAES & why weight stigma is a social justice issue
Learning from Eunice Bassler, RD
Sonya Renee Taylor; The Body is Not an Apology and the Workbook
Small Group Supervision, webinars, conferences
Jessica Setnick Boot Camp and pocket guide
The Body Griever’s Club Podcast with Bri Campos
BIO:
Alison St. Germain, a Registered Dietitian, recently changed positions from an Associate Professor of Clinical Practice at Iowa State University (ISU) in the department of Food Science Human Nutrition to ISU Student Wellness RD, and she is the owner of St. Germain Consulting: Redefining Health—Nutrition for ALL Bodies, LLC. She is a Certified Intuitive Eating Counselor, a Health For Every Body® Facilitator and Certified Craving Change™. St.Germain is passionate about Health at Every Size®, Body Respect, Body Neutrality & Liberation, and spreading awareness and prevention of eating disorders. She has two daughters, which lead to her passion of promoting weight inclusivity and anti-diet approaches and speaking regularly at professional conferences, the community, middle and high school classes, college undergraduates and postgraduates.
Alison's website for her private practice is: www.alisonstgermain.com;
Her social media is instagram/facebook @nutrition4allbodies"
https://www.gpidea.org/program/dietetics
With your host Beth Harrell
Saturday Aug 06, 2022
Saturday Aug 06, 2022
Jessica Setnick, MS, RD, CEDRD-S
Dietitians, therapists, and medical providers don’t get much education or training about eating disorders. We are led to believe that if we don’t specialize in the area of eating disorders, we don’t need to know much because we aren’t seeing them.
You’ve heard previous guests talk about the importance of asking the simple questions about eating as we conceptualize the plan and goals.
Jessica talks about helping people with nutrition by not putting humans into diagnostic boxes, and by recognizing eating behaviors that range from Positive and Supportive to Harmful or Destructive.
“The best gift of CEDS Certification is requiring supervision, the gift that keeps on giving” but supervision is not just for CEDS Certification, CPEUs (continuing education) are available for RDs who are in supervision for professional development.
Jessica’s journal article & findings: A survey of registered dietitian nutritionists who provide care to clients with eating disorders: implications for education, training, and clinical practice.
Jessica will be presenting with Mary Beth Kavanagh this fall at FNCE on the topic of Eating Disorders and COVID-19. More information can be found here.
Jessica’s handout on dysfunctional eating behaviors: The origin of dysfunctional eating behaviors model.
A link toJessica’s previous podcast episode.
Link to eating disorders Boot Camp and Supervision Boot Camp (Sleepless Dietitian’s supervision Boot Camp)
Bio:
Jessica Setnick is a name you know from Eating Disorders Boot Camp and the Eating Disorders Clinical Pocket Guide. She’s been eating disorder dietitians’ biggest fan for over two decades and is always cooking up a new project to help us do our best work. Jessica’s latest creations are The Sleepless Dietitian’s Book of Answers and Supervision Boot Camp.
https://www.gpidea.org/program/dietetics
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/great-plains-idea/
Join Beth in Nutrition Therapy for Eating Disorders Master’s Level Course through Great Plains IDEA.
With your host Beth Harrell
Friday Jul 08, 2022
Friday Jul 08, 2022
Marcia Herrin, EdD, MPH, RDN, LD, FAED
How does a dietitian provide family based care virtually?
What is Dr. Herrin's opinion about meal plans?
Is focusing on weight as a clinician disordered?
The reason our guest joined every insurance panel and fights for coverage.
Virtual Best Practices episode with Jessica-Lauren Newby
Marcia’s Seasonings:
Chris Fairburn early book on CBT
Reiff and Reiff "Notebook"
Book “White Fragility”
Bio:
Marcia Herrin, EdD, MPH, RDN, LD, FAED, developer of the Rule of Threes Food Plan and author of Nutrition Counseling in the Treatment of Eating Disorders and The Parent’s Guide to Eating Disorders. Dr. Herrin is a registered dietitian nutritionist with a doctorate in nutrition education and master’s in public health nutrition. Dr. Herrin is Clinical Professor at Geisel School of Medicine at Dartmouth in the US and has provided outpatient nutrition therapy for eating disorders for over 35 years. Her international work is focused on training professionals in the nutrition treatment of eating disorders. Dr. Herrin received her doctorate in nutrition education from Columbia University. At the University of California-Berkeley, she received her masters degree and completed a dietetic internship. Marcia was honored as a fellow in the Academy for Eating Disorders in 2013.
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With your host Beth Harrell
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Friday Jul 01, 2022
Friday Jul 01, 2022
How do you as the dietitian handle the tears?
Valerie-isms on healthy, paleo, keto, clean and how to work with families
Let Food Be Food! (Cereal Blog)
“It’s ok to be feared and hated because it’s not going to be forever.”
Valerie says, start here:
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(Krause – lol)
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Life Without ED
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The Body Project
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Father Hunger
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The F*ck It Diet
Bio: Valerie Grogan, MS, RDN, LD, CEDRD joined the Laureate Eating Disorders Program in 2012. She holds a bachelor’s degree from Oklahoma State University in nutritional sciences and a master’s degree from the University of Memphis in clinical nutrition. Valerie focuses on integrating family involvement in all stages of nutrition therapy and works to bridge the gap between inpatient treatment and transition to outpatient care. “Food is Medicine” is the driving force behind Valerie’s approach to Medical Nutrition Therapy with adolescent eating disorders. Ms. Grogan has also taken on the role of Laureate Librarian, as she is just as enthusiastic about reading as she is about nutrition - “nourish the body so you can nourish the mind."
Learn more about the life change happening at Laureate at SaintFrancis.com/Laureate.
With your host Beth Harrell
Friday Jun 24, 2022
Friday Jun 24, 2022
Nutrition matters, brain, and personality come back
Dr. O’Melia makes a pact – “Give it one year after we restore nutrition before you decide you want to go back to the eating disorder.
How to retrain those neurons that have fired together for so long
TMS – trans magnetic stimulation for ED with depression
NOTHING WORKS WITHOUT NUTRITION
Medications, interactions, and modalities are discussed, like TMS and Ketamine
Dr. O’Melia’s Seasonings:
EARLY INTERVENTION involving the family is important for full recovery
Bio:
Anne Marie O’Melia, MS, MD, FAAP joined the medical staff at Eating Recovery Center in 2014. She is a Triple Board trained physician, with board certifications in Pediatrics and General Psychiatry. She also holds subspecialty board certifications in Child & Adolescent Psychiatry and in Psychosomatic Medicine. Prior to attending medical school, she earned her Master’s Degree in Counseling Psychology from the University of Kentucky College of Education and then practiced as a psychologist in rural regions of Kentucky. She earned her MD with Distinction from the University of Kentucky College of Medicine and completed her residency training at the University of Utah Triple Board Program. Dr. O’Melia has co-authored multiple articles and book chapters on eating disorders and served as a co-investigator for various clinical trials related to psychopharmacology in the treatment of eating disorders and mood disorders. Dr. O’Melia has been listed as one of the “Best Doctors in America” every year since 2007.
Prior to moving to Denver and joining the staff at Eating Recovery Center, Dr. O’Melia was a dual-appointed Assistant Professor first at the University of Utah and then in the University of Cincinnati Departments of Psychiatry and Pediatrics. Both at the University of Utah and the University of Cincinnati, she has served as Medical Director of programs that serve children and adults at all levels of care and with a wide range of complex medical and psychiatric comorbidities.
With your host Beth Harrell
Friday Jun 17, 2022
Friday Jun 17, 2022
- Goal is sustainable lifestyle change.
- Live the best life and thrive
- Perception of hunger varies on the spectrum of eating disorders.
- LANGUAGE – pts don’t fail treatment, the treatments fail them
- STAY CURIOUS – what would that be like for you?
- Are Anorexia Nervosa and Binge Eating Disorder opposite?
- People’s perception of hunger can be very individual
- Medication can decrease some of the constant food chatter.
Dr Bleistein’s Seasonings:
- Recognize disordered eating and full eating disorders in obesity medicine
- Just because you’re a medical doctor doesn’t mean you can’t engage in this psychology. YOU CAN DO THIS!
- Recognizing shame
- Start to ask the right questions.
- STAY CURIOUS.
- Screens include: ACE Screening (Adverse Childhood Experience) and BED-7
- http://www.kidpower.org/ on Bullying
- Binge Eating Disorder Screening Questionnaires
- Kidpower Healthcare Resource - Bullying and Obesity Oct 25, 2015
Bio:
Bio: Dr. Abby Bleistein is the founder and medical director of a multidisciplinary Obesity Medicine practice, Healthful Life MD, where she currently practices in Golden, Colorado. The multidisciplinary approach includes specialists in health psychology, trauma, and eating disorders, a certified nutritionist, a registered dietitian, a certified trainer, and a chef specializing in culinary nutrition. Dr. Bleistein also provides care for the adult and pediatric residential treatment programs with The Eating Recovery Center in Denver, Colorado. She has spoken at national professional conferences on Binge Eating Disorder, Eating Disorders after Bariatric Surgery, and a board review presentation on Eating Disorders and Behavior in Obesity Medicine. She is board certified in Internal Medicine and Pediatrics and is a Diplomat of the American Board of Obesity Medicine. In 2016, Dr. Bleistein was recognized by the Obesity Medicine Association as Candidate of the Year. She has served on the Pediatric Committee, the Advocacy Committee. and as a member of the Speakers Bureau of the Obesity Medicine Association.
In this podcast we bring in medical, nutrition, and therapy professionals who share their passions to pique your interest in available modalities for the field of eating disorders.
This show is intended to inform and educate It is not a substitute for the professional training and supervision required to specialize in the treatment of eating disorders, nor is it a substitute for medical, nutritional or psychological advice from a professional or specialist.
With your host Beth Harrell
Friday Jun 10, 2022
Friday Jun 10, 2022
Dr Hooper attempts to bridge the gap between the too common one-size-fits-all medical recommendations for weight loss and eating disorders.
He describes the desperation of his patients to lose weight and recognizes the impact of cultural stigma.
He also talks about the *medical* sequelae of diabetes and hypertension as well as the *physical* sequelae of knees, back, and joints and advocates for medical care regardless of ability to meet the expectations of surgeon-imposed weight changes such as required BMI of 40.
The focus of his work is homing in on benefits of sleep, joyful movement and diet.
For dietitians or doctors who tell patients “Don’t live on Cheetos”, Beth asks why not?
The culture won’t change overnight.
Meet people where they are even though we have seen the harm of popular diets (Intermittent Fasting, Paleo, “Clean” Eating)
Also discussed was the harm from the programs that charge tens of thousands of dollars.
Why do those awaiting transplants have to get BMI down?
“We are making things worse by requiring weight loss”
Dr Hooper’s Seasonings:
Medical mentoring with specialist in eating disorders
How to recognize Eating Disorders
To Fellow Medical Professionals - be careful not to praise weight loss at any cost
Bio:
Jeffrey Hooper, DO, is board certified in internal medicine and one of a handful of physicians in Washington state who is certified in obesity medicine. His expertise allows him to provide effective interventions through diet, physical activity and behavioral change prescriptive medicine. As Medical Director of the MultiCare Center for Weight Loss & Wellness, Dr. Hooper oversees four program locations. In his free time, Dr. Hooper volunteers for the Boy Scouts of America and chases summits.
Certification: Obesity Medicine; Internal Medicine
Professional School: Western University of Health Sciences
Residency: St. Barnabas Hospital & Medical Center
Practice Philosophy: I believe establishing a strong physician-patient relationship is the key to successful patient care. I try to listen closely to each problem and work with my patients to arrive at a solution.
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With your host Beth Harrell
Friday May 27, 2022
Friday May 27, 2022
Dr. Mark McGrath, MBBS, MPhil, FRACGP, CEDS, CEDC
Dr. McGrath’s interest in biology and psychology are the perfect ingredients for medical providers to work in the field of eating disorders, around the world. (see “seasonings” below).
- Dr. McGrath shares what is most rewarding for him is spending longer time with patients. He reminds us that medical providers (and all professionals) can make a big change with small amount of effort .
- Listening, having the patient be heard, encourage them to engage.
- Telling people to lose weight is very unhelpful advice, potential harm, but more importantly it’s too nonspecific.
- Graphic and Doing healthy things (article) https://drmarkmcgrath.com.au/about/
- Publication bias leads to so much weight centric information out there
- Permission to not advise weight loss
- Don’t be overwhelmed, it IS very rewarding, find your people.
Dr. McGrath’s Seasonings:
- “Sick Enough” book by Dr Gaudiani (Dr G episode)
- Health At Every Size – HAES
- Queensland Eating Disorders Service
- Hiking and nature
- PLEASE DON’T WEIGH ME card
Bio:
Dr McGrath is a Brisbane GP experienced in all fields of general practice and has a special interest in eating disorders. He is certified by the International Association Of Eating Disorders Professionals and the Australia & New Zealand Academy for Eating Disorders . Dr McGrath provides medical monitoring and coordination of care & support for all eating disorders. He particularly values his role in providing psycho-education and engaging newly presenting patients to the appropriate care.
Dr McGrath loves helping those in larger bodies address health concerns from a ‘weight neutral’ perspective.
He also enjoys treating men’s health, sports & chronic injuries, chronic medical conditions, basic skin checks and minor surgery and has extensive experience in the field of ophthalmology (eyes) including achieving a Master’s degree in medical research in the area.
Dr McGrath works as an assistant surgeon, predominantly in orthopaedics at the Wesley Hospital.
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